tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post4691655450722120302..comments2023-10-22T05:15:33.468-04:00Comments on 88 Topps Cards: #540 Bret SaberhagenAndyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05644396308532248413noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-53743868632165596922008-08-25T07:57:00.000-04:002008-08-25T07:57:00.000-04:00If that's the game, then it's Seitzer...hmm.If that's the game, then it's Seitzer...hmm.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05644396308532248413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-21345474742096023912008-08-24T23:21:00.000-04:002008-08-24T23:21:00.000-04:00The blue seats disappearing into the low shadow ma...The blue seats disappearing into the low shadow make me almost 100% certain that's Tiger Stadium, which in turn makes me think it's this game.<BR/><BR/>http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1987/B04260DET1987.htmrobbythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812977178607548991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-19447501083546245972008-07-22T19:49:00.000-04:002008-07-22T19:49:00.000-04:00About 6 months ago I was at a garage sale and the...About 6 months ago I was at a garage sale and they had folders that were replicas of the 1988 Topps cards. I bought several of them mainly because they were different or unique to me. It just so happens that one of the folder cards I bought was the Bret Saberhagen. His picture is 11 3/4 inches by 9 1/2 inches. So eventhough the guy standing behind Saberhagen is still blurry he is a lot bigger and to me it looks like George Brett.Bart McClaughryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16684951964266531432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-53549741234359501192008-07-22T06:36:00.000-04:002008-07-22T06:36:00.000-04:00I've got one more thing that suggests Brett over S...I've got one more thing that suggests Brett over Seitzer. The player is clearly wearing a wrist band on his right arm, which Brett always wore (in fact he always wore them on both arms--look at any of his cards from 1988--Topps, Donruss, Score and Fleer all show the wrist bands.) Seitzer usually did not wear them.<BR/><BR/>Brett seemed, though, to wear blue wrist bands with the blue uniforms, and white wrist bands with the white uniforms, which doesn't quite jive with what we see hear.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm. We need a Royals fan out there to settle this. Contacting baseballcardman!Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05644396308532248413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-51173301856300430272008-07-22T01:37:00.000-04:002008-07-22T01:37:00.000-04:00It appears the 1B is wearing a jersey with a singl...It appears the 1B is wearing a jersey with a single digit uniform number on the front. In 1987 Brett wore number 5 and Seitzer wore number 33. The plot thickens.Ernesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09658900841043560923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-56254114890914206132008-07-22T00:43:00.000-04:002008-07-22T00:43:00.000-04:00Not sure if all pitchers wear long sleeves to keep...Not sure if all pitchers wear long sleeves to keep their arm loose, but that at least suggests a cooler location or time of the year.<BR/><BR/>We've got Apr 26 @ DET and May 14 @ BAL as decent candidates. Both feature Seitzer at first. In fact, Bret & Brett don't play those positions together until July, when long sleeves shouldn't be necessary. <BR/><BR/>Given the lack of fans in the seats we can see, you're looking at a team with poor attendance, stadium with blue seats, who hosted Bret early or late in the year.<BR/><BR/>I think that's May 14th at Baltimore's Memorial Stadium. Attendance of under 18,000, blue seats, and average monthly temps of low-to-mid 60s. That would make it Seitzer at first.Spike Gliddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08211583758682256366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-67510866730589956922008-07-21T18:19:00.000-04:002008-07-21T18:19:00.000-04:00I don't know if it's Brett or not. I would not ad...I don't know if it's Brett or not. I would not advocate adding it to the HOF count based on the accidental inclusion of Brett in the photo.MMayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09893007769493689849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-59951866049504509032008-07-21T18:05:00.000-04:002008-07-21T18:05:00.000-04:00While I don't disagree that it could be Brett in t...While I don't disagree that it could be Brett in the background, I will disagree that the picture is from a Royals home game. The powder blue unis were the road uniforms of the Royals. A similar breakdown for 1B on the Road when Saberhagen started looks like this:<BR/><BR/>Brett-7<BR/>Balboni-5<BR/>Seitzer-3<BR/>Madison – 1 (came in for Brett one game when Saberhagen had a CG)<BR/><BR/>Digging a touch deeper, I can rule out a couple of these games based on the stadium. I can tell for sure that this picture was not taken at Comiskey, Fenway or Cleveland, so that eliminates 2 Balboni appearances, 1 Brett, and 2 Seizter. It looks like the same stadium in the cards of Thad Bosley and Jamie Quirk, and those both look like they were taken outdoors. So lets rule out the Metrodome and the Kingdome. -2 Brett, -1 Balboni. So we are left with<BR/><BR/>Brett - 4<BR/>Balboni – 2<BR/>Seitzer- 1<BR/><BR/>That’s about as far as I can get, I can’t tell what stadium it is past that. Odds are quite good that it is Brett. Anyone know their mid-80s AL blue-seated stadiums?Matt Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12805778698480661649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2327798346644458245.post-72448733691918508442008-07-21T15:09:00.000-04:002008-07-21T15:09:00.000-04:00Don't forget: Saberhagen had already won a Cy Youn...Don't forget: Saberhagen had already won a Cy Young Award in '85 at the tender age of 21 (I believe this makes him the 3rd youngest winner behind Gooden and Fernando). <BR/><BR/>As for Brett in the background, the following is the breakdown of who played 1B in Saberhagen's home starts in 1987 (assuming that's when the photo was taken): <BR/><BR/>Brett = 10<BR/>Balboni = 5<BR/>Seitzer = 2 <BR/>Beniquez = 1<BR/><BR/>Odds are, indeed, it's Brett.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14890227404131348324noreply@blogger.com